MSN Needs to Wake Up and Smell the Coffee

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Posted on November 09, 2005 10:47 PM in Browsers
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Fresh off the heels of berating Microsoft and then applauding them, here I am again to give them a hard time.

I just visited MSN.com in Firefox and noticed a lot of wasted, blue space at the top of the page (roughly 25% of the first fold) that contained the following notice:

Why does MSN look like this? Your browser cannot find our style and presentation information. You are welcome to use the page as is, or upgrade your browser to its latest version. If you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer, go to the Microsoft Internet Explorer website to install the latest version. If you are using another browser, see its website for more information.

Come on MSN, seriously. It's time you got with the program and stepped down off of your high horse. Just in case you missed it, Firefox has stolen your thunder and you're going to have to work miracles with IE7 if you expect to reverse that in any way, shape or form.

When you pulled this crap with Opera you pissed a lot of people off (myself included). If the message I saw tonight is any indication of a similar move with Firefox, I hope you're ready for some backlash.

In fact, I have a feeling the Firefox community could come up with something far superior to Opera's 'Bork' edition.

Comments

Patrick on November 10, 2005 at 4:06 AM:

I can't seem to reproduce the problem with my FF 1.5RC1.

What's funny is that one part of Microsoft, I guess the Visual Studio part, has noticed the work towards standards and that IE isn't the only web browser (although I like to call it a File Browser with a web interface) around. At the same time we have the Hotmail/MSN bunch that seems to live in a bubble.

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Daniel on November 13, 2005 at 9:01 PM:

You can see the message in Firefox 1.5 only if you go VIEW -> PAGE STYLE and change it to 'No Style'. Even though it appears that Microsoft is doing this maliciously at first glance from an older browser, it looks as though they are sincere when you see it in FF 1.5.

The full message that I see:

Why does MSN look like this?
Microsoft Internet Explorer website

Why does MSN look like this? Your browser cannot find our style and presentation information and as a result may not display the page properly. You are welcome to use the page as is, or upgrade your browser to its latest version which may address the problem. If you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer, go to the Microsoft Internet Explorer website to install the latest version. If you are using another browser, see the provider's website for more information. If you are using Internet Explorer for Mac, we recommend that you use another browser to have an optimal experience on MSN.

You will notice at the end they mention that if you are using IE for Mac, that you use another browser? On Mactopia (www.microsoft.com/mac) they have publically said that they are abandoning IE for Mac... period. And here it looks as if they are now telling you to use another browser. Good for them.

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